Showing posts with label NO to biofuel crap. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NO to biofuel crap. Show all posts

Saturday, September 22, 2012

oh, frack that

Last few weeks, I haven't been blogging... I've been busy... and sick... and reading lots of stuff. 

USA lamestream media is trying to convince Americans, and the rest of the world, that Romney's campaign is over and O will win in a landslide. 

Right. 

Sure. 

Anyway, I still don't have much time to blog about much.  I know you all will be voting for Romney in November.  Why would anyone in their right mind, with a small grain of common sense, ever continue to vote for O? 

In 2008 he won with 53% of those who voted.  It was 22% of the USA population.  Do you think ALL those people who voted last time STILL want to vote for O in 2012?  Are they HAPPIER and better off 4 years later?  Really............? 

Right.

Sure. 

And the middle east is burning... 20+ uprisings at American embassies last week... and counting.  Gay American ambassador killed: he was not being guarded by unarmed British security group USA had contracted for - KILLED in preplanned attack with 3 others in Libya. And the O admin APOLOGIZES to the killers?   USA flags burn, O effigies burn... The attack on Libya was PLANNED in advance, for goodness sakes... and the LYING media still says "oh, they are upset about a video"....

Right.

Sure.

So, yep, the world loves O... ALLLLLL of his 2008 supporters still LOVE LOVE LOVE him... even though they can't fill the DNC stadium and have to move to smaller venue for the O speech.  The economy is just FINE and GREAT under O...  Foreign policy of apologizing and appeasement is working just fine...  More solar and wind companies going bankrupt... fine, just fine... More money being printed with 'quantatative easing'... When you're broke, you keep spending and borrowing to recover... yep, works fine, just fine....

Right.....!

SURE.....!

Now, step AWAY from the O koolaid.  Reality is here.  November is coming and American's will VOTE O out... in a landslide.  Now THAT I'm sure about.... I'M RIGHT!!!!!   :)

Here's a great video of recent speech by Ann McElhinney. She is GREAT. Do YOU love the environment?  I do... I LOVE it... and I love electricity and all things UNnatural.  I say to that empty chair: Go frack yourself... and listen:

Monday, April 30, 2012

Clean Coal promo and Civil Disobedience

Good promo for Clean Coal:



... And a good article at AT today by Frank Ryan describing civil disobedience and how that IS required now-a-days.  Here are some examples of what ALL Americans need to do:

"Drive less for a few weeks. The federal fuel tax per gallon of gasoline is 18.4 cents. To that you must also add the state fuel tax, which ranges from about 8 cents per gallon in Alaska to 49 cents per gallon in New York. The federal and state highway budgets are already struggling.

If you itemize your deductions on your federal tax return, consider increasing your charitable contributions. Again, you save your marginal tax rate, not your average tax rate, due to the type of tax structure we have -- and you will feel better.

If you are able to retire early and draw Social Security at age 62, do so. This not only draws on the fund, but it reduces your tax liability since your earned income is reduced. You really starve the beast with this step.

If there are toll roads in your area, do not use them unless the time savings are significant. Many state governments have substantially increased tolls because they think you are not sensitive to toll price increases (called elasticity of demand).

The next tool is to pay your taxes only when they are due. Paying taxes early feeds the very beast that's abusing you. This government needs your money in order to keep abusing you.

Martin Luther King has been heralded as a great leader. Change occurred because he, as a leader, was willing to take a stand for a principle he believed in.

Our government has so overstepped its responsibilities as enumerated in Article 1, Sections 7 and 8 of the U.S. Constitution that I can no longer recognize the government that I thought represented me.

This president and this Congress have done nothing more than enslave the very people whom they proclaim they are trying to protect with this massive public debt and overspending.

The greatest gift one can ever give to a people is the right of self-determination. Our out-of-control entitlement mentality has effectively enslaved future generations to pay for our decisions and for the government overreach of today.

These entitlements have also enslaved the people receiving them.

I can think of nothing more disingenuous than to make someone dependent. It is equally disingenuous for a president to do that to an entire nation.

It's simple. If you really believe in your principles, stop feeding this beast. Make your economic voice heard.

Reduce your income, cut back spending, and fund your taxes only when due. Do these three things in unison, and we will win. Vote with your wallet!"

Good tips Mr. Ryan, thanks!

Saturday, February 11, 2012

UK waking up: STOP wind farm madness!

cartoon from AT
The UK is waking up to the horrible madness of green energy scam: bird killing wind turbines:
Why the £250bn wind power industry could be the greatest scam of our age - and here are the three 'lies' that prove it: "Scarcely a day goes by without more evidence to show why the Government's obsession with wind turbines, now at the centre of our national energy policy, is one of the greatest political blunders of our time.  Under a target agreed with the EU, Britain is committed within ten years — at astronomic expense — to generating nearly a third of its electricity from renewable sources, mainly through building thousands more wind turbines. 

But the penny is finally dropping for almost everyone — except our politicians — that to rely on windmills to keep our lights on is a colossal and very dangerous act of self-deception.

Here in a nutshell are some of the reasons why people are beginning to wake up to the horrific downside of the wind business. And since I began writing about wind turbines nine years ago, I have come to see how the case for them rests on three great lies.

1) The first is the pretence that turbines are anything other than ludicrously inefficient

2) The second great lie about wind power is the pretence that it is not a preposterously expensive way to produce electricity. No one would dream of building wind turbines unless they were guaranteed a huge government subsidy.

3) The third great lie of the wind propagandists is that this industry is somehow making a vital contribution to 'saving the planet' by cutting our emissions of CO2. Even if you believe that curbing our use of fossil fuels could change the Earth's climate, the CO2 reduction achieved by wind turbines is so insignificant that one large windfarm saves considerably less in a year than is given off over the same period by a single jumbo jet flying daily between Britain and America."

(Irish) Engineers call for halt to wind farm investment:  "A new report from the Academy of Engineering will today call for a halt to investment in wind farms and power interconnections because of the huge cost it will place on industry.

It will state that Ireland already has the most expensive electricity in Europe and that this is causing a major problem for national competitiveness, putting Irish industry under severe pressure at the worst possible time."

Energy policy based on renewables will win hearts but won't protect their owners from frostbite and death due to exposure:   "Why does the entire green spectrum, which now incorporates most conventional parties across Europe, deny the most obvious of truths? To play lethal games with our energy systems in order to honour the whimsical god of climate change is as intelligent and scientific as the Aztec sacrifice of their young. Actually, it is far more frivolous, because at least the Aztecs knew how many people they were sacrificing: no one has the least idea of the loss of life that might result from the EU embracing "green" energy policies."

Tuesday, March 8, 2011

relying on middle east? time to drill for your own oil

There were a few interesting articles I happened upon today which make me think it is very important that countries who soley or primarily rely on oil from the middle east need to seriously find new sources including drilling LOCALLY wherever that may be.

In Alaska, for example, some 80% of land is "Federal" land and cannot be touched. Why? More exploration and expanded responsible drilling NOW for oil and shale - and coal too - needs to happen in America and across the world.

TheUrkel's communist islamic-friendly regime has other plans though... plans that do NOT benefit America... plans that only enrich elitist banker types.

What are these plans? TheWon (and previous presidents) cozy up to the Saudis and middle east dicatators who have the oil. Judge for yourself...

Go back to a few stories from last year. March 2010, Washington Times, EDITORIAL Obama surrenders gulf oil to Moscow:

"The Obama administration is poised to ban offshore oil drilling on the outer continental shelf until 2012 or beyond. Meanwhile, Russia is making a bold strategic leap to begin drilling for oil in the Gulf of Mexico. While the United States attempts to shift gears to alternative fuels to battle the purported evils of carbon emissions, Russia will erect oil derricks off the Cuban coast.

Offshore oil production makes economic sense. It creates jobs and helps fulfill America’s vast energy needs. It contributes to the gross domestic product and does not increase the trade deficit. Higher oil supply helps keep a lid on rising prices, and greater American production gives the United States more influence over the global market."

"Cuba has rights to the area in which drilling will be conducted under an agreement the Carter administration recognized. From Russia’s perspective, this is another way to gain leverage inside what traditionally has been America’s sphere of influence. It may not be as dramatic as the Soviet Union attempting to use Cuba as a missile platform, but in the energy wars, the message is the same. Russia is projecting power into the Western Hemisphere while the United States retreats. The world will not tolerate a superpower that acts like a sidekick much longer."

Now to July 2010 Obama's latest assault on liberty from WND:
"President Obama's Executive Order 13547, issued July 19, further extends federal power, embraces global governance, diminishes the rights and privileges of individuals and brings the United States into compliance with Agenda 21, Chapter 17.6, which says:

Each coastal State should consider establishing, or where necessary strengthening, appropriate coordinating mechanisms (such as a high-level policy planning body) for integrated management and sustainable development of coastal and marine areas. The National Ocean Council created by the executive order creates this mechanism – and much more.

The genius of the American system of governance created by the U.S. Constitution is the delicate balance of power between the federal government, state and local governments, and the people. The founders recognized the people as the source of power; the people came first. It was the people who organized states. The states created a federal government and through the Constitution limited the power of the new government to those specific powers set forth in Article I, Section 8. All unspecified powers were explicitly retained by the states or the people.

In the first 200 years, the United States of America produced greater wealth and prosperity than the rest of the world had produced in 2000 years. Why? Because individuals were free to pursue their own individual happiness."

September 2010 Laura Rambeau Lee discusses above story about Executive Order 13547 at the Examiner.com Two if by sea:

"In an article by Henry Lamb posted on World News Daily on July 31, 2010 entitled Obama’s Latest Assault on Liberty he states “President Obama's Executive Order 13547, issued July 19, further extends federal power, embraces global governance, diminishes the rights and privileges of individuals and brings the United States into compliance with Agenda 21, Chapter 17.6, which says:

Each coastal State should consider establishing, or where necessary strengthening, appropriate coordinating mechanisms (such as a high-level policy planning body) for integrated management and sustainable development of coastal and marine areas. …”

This executive order also intends to pursue the United States’ accession to the Law of the Sea Convention, or Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) Dr. Lamb goes on to say “This treaty would give the U.N. power to regulate activity within our territorial seas (Article 2, (3)); it would give the U.N. the power to levy taxes in the form of application fees ($250,000) and royalties; it provides no benefits that the United States does not already enjoy. Yet, the Obama administration has set up this new National Ocean Council to convince the Senate to ratify the treaty.”

In 1978 Ronald Reagan declared, “No national interest of the United States can justify handing sovereign control of two-thirds of the Earth’s surface over to the Third World.” In 1982 Ronald Reagan refused to sign the Law of the Sea Treaty or send it to the Senate.

In 2004 President George W. Bush signed the treaty, which essentially would give the International Seabed Authority all of the rights over the Atlantic, Pacific, Indian and Arctic oceans and all of the oil and mineral resources they contain. The International Seabed Authority, created by The Law of the Sea Convention, consists of 155 nations, wherein the United States would have only one vote and no veto. But of course, the United States would pay the principal share of the operating costs, as we do today with the United Nations, paying close to 17% of the operating costs. Fortunately the Senate did not pursue it’s ratification at that time."

March 2011 NewZeal points out in Must Read: Arab Communists Meet - Plan Major Changes for Middle East - from "Arab left forum" February 2011:

"The mass movement and militancy that we are witnessing has opened up a new horizon for the Arab world. A horizon created through the struggle of the youth and the workers of Tunisia and Egypt, and with significant and effective participation by Arab women. This raises the opportunity and the challenge for the forces of the Arab Left to unify themselves under a program for democratic and social change with two main and related tasks.

Firstly, such a program is necessary to confront reactionary internal forces attempting to exploit the mass popular awakening in Egypt and Tunisia in order to serve their own agendas which does not entail any radical change from the current status in the Arab world. On the contrary, these reactionary agendas would reproduce the same regimes albeit in a novel shape and form.
Secondly, such a program for the unification of the Arab left forces is also necessary to effectively confront the Imperialist American plots and Zionist occupation and assaults under a banner for real and effective change.

In the current revolutionary moment we are witnessing, the Arab leftist forces and parties gathered in Beirut decided to entitle their exceptional meeting The Martyrs of the Tunisian and Egyptian Revolution and the Other Arab Intifadas."

Trevor asks: "Does this all sound like "democracy" is coming to the Middle East? ... If this allowed to play out, $10 or $20 a gallon gas won't be the big issue. National survival will be."

So you got all that?

First the Dem-commies give "ownership" (?!?!) of oceans to the UN through "executive order" (total B.S. I say - he is not a dictator but he acts like one) while Feds continue to lock down & confiscate land across the USA and ban further drilling (while promoting Soros-owned Petrobas drilling in Brazil). Next, they cozy up to Iran and other middle east & arab dictators who now have their own leftist arab groups pushing for a combined arab power state in a goal to "confront" the USA and Israel...?

Like I said, time for USA and ALL western countries dependent on middle eastern oil to start drilling for their own... quick. TheWon regime needs to be stopped.

Trevor is right: national survival at stake.

Friday, December 10, 2010

Gore admits lying about Ethanol just for votes



I'm sure you've heard this, right? In case you missed it, last month HotAir covered Gore-acle admitted lying about Ethanol to get votes from the farm lobby.

Shocking.
Umm, not really.

"Former U.S. vice-president Al Gore said support for corn-based ethanol in the United States was “not a good policy”, weeks before tax credits are up for renewal.

“It is not a good policy to have these massive subsidies for (U.S.) first generation ethanol,” said Gore, speaking at a green energy business conference in Athens sponsored by Marfin Popular Bank.

“First generation ethanol I think was a mistake. The energy conversion ratios are at best very small."

“One of the reasons I made that mistake is that I paid particular attention to the farmers in my home state of Tennessee, and I had a certain fondness for the farmers in the state of Iowa because I was about to run for president.”

What other snake oil will Goracle push next? Oooooh, the BIOFUEL crap!

"Google avaiation biofuels and algae. Then Google Al Gore’s investment into biofuel companies like Abengoa.

Then read this article last week in The Hill, written by none other than Abengoa VP, Christopher G. Standlee: "America needs new investment: In the next generation of biofuels."

Then ponder the Federal lands and wetlands bonanza buy-ups in recent years, even pointed out by our very own Michelle Malkin."

Elites push green CRAP to line their own pockets with MONEY.
Planet be damned.

Why do people even believe anything he or they say?
Now THAT is the shocking part.

CONSERVE THE PLANET: Say NO to "BIOFUELS"!

And about those true AGW believers? Russell Cook at Climate Realist points out skeptics have been smeared for a few years now:

"Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) is a concept supported by only two legs, a so-called consensus of climate scientists claiming it is proven, and the idea that skeptic scientists aren't worth listening to. Almost any internet article or blog written by an AGW believer boils down to that.

Indeed, the explanation of this is greatly offset by the simplicity of the campaign behind the accusation. Its narrative has been so effectively pounded into practically every AGW believer that it can be regurgitated by the dumbest of believers in three points:

1. a scientific consensus says the debate is settled; Fact, end of story.
2. skeptic scientists corrupted by big coal & oil industries seek to 'reposition' the public into believing AGW is not a fact.
3. journalists don't have to give equal weight to skeptic scientists because of the previous two points; they're corrupt, and few in number.

That's it. You are not to question it..."

SCOTUS will hear a global warming case soon... I wonder how that will turn out.

Who cares, right? Let's just pray to gaia and PARTY IN CANCUN!

Saturday, November 27, 2010

be afraid: say NO to a "BIOMASS" economy

Do you love earth? Greenies don't. And why do I say that? They push man-made global warming, oops, I'm sorry, I mean man-made CLIMATE CHANGE to promote "green" agendas world wide. But what have and what will these green agendas actually DO to PLANET EARTH?!

Bad things.
Wind mills kill birds, are NOT cost efficient and cost MORE to run for the same amount of electricity say compared to an efficient coal planet or nuclear reactor.

The new planet masters aka "biomassters" say the planet is running low on coal and oil. We must do something IMMEDIATELY to save Gaia... You know that is a lie, right?

Propanda alert: "alternative fuels" must be developed.

Oh, you have no problem with that? Sounds nice? Only if you are okay with heightening the efforts to kill the planet. (hmm, these ideas tie in to 'the Vegetarian Myth' book I just highlighted!)

OK, besides windmills and solar: let's start with Ethanol as an example most are familiar with. Did you know Ethanol is NOT "green"?.

Hattip to Small Dead Animals, from ETC report "The New Biomasters: Synthetic biology and the next assault on biodiversity and livlihoods" the three big problems with Ethanol are:

1) Competition with food and forest protection
"In 2008, an internal World Bank report (later made public) revealed that up to 75% of the increase in food prices during that year’s food crisis, was due to the biofuels policies of Europe and the U.S., which prompted a massive switch away from wheat planting to rapeseed growing coupled with major diversion of corn and soy into ethanol and biodiesel production."

2) Poor energy balance
"Ethanol in particular is a poor fuel that produces less energy when combusted than gasoline."

3) Requires special engines and/or distribution lines
"Pumping neat ethanol into existing engines can corrode engine parts and requires adjustments in the flow of air and fuel."

So developing Ethanol makes global FOOD prices go higher, is bad energy and ruins engines. Does this slow down the Biomasters? Nope...

They are already on to "Generation NeXt: Switching fuels and feedstocks":

"After being largely blindsided by the problems associated with the first wave of biofuels, industry along with OECD governments are now pumping a tremendous amount of money into what is being called the ‘next generation’ of biofuels. The high level of commitment hints at a political desperation to rescue the significant monies and commitment already invested in the field."

More from "The New Biomasters: Synthetic biology and the next assault on biodiversity and livelihoods" (it has lots of good stuff, go read it...)

"Under the pretext of addressing environmental degradation, climate change and the energy and food crises, industry is portending a “New Bioeconomy” and the replacement of fossil carbon with living matter, now labeled “biomass.”

"...governments are being told that “Synthetic Biology” – a technology just being invented – will make and transform all the biomass we will ever need to replace all the fossil fuels we currently use. Meanwhile, new carbon markets are turning plant-life into carbon stocks for trading (in lieu of reducing emissions). But, the companies that say “trust us” are the same energy, chemical companies, agribusinesses and forestry giants that created the climate and food crises in the first place."

WHAT? I can tell you the term "synthetic biology" gives me a cold shiver down my spine.

I love biology, chemistry, physics and all science. It is fascinating stuff. Planet earth and all that lives, walks, crawls, flies and swims on it are all intertwined in a beautiful dance of life.

Earth and the species on it have evolved weathering ice ages, warming periods, floods, volcanoes, meteorites, hurricanes all while the sun's intense rays zap us continually. Our atmosphere protects us but it is tough. Man's wee pollutants and bits of garbage are NOT killing the planet. The natural cooling and warming cycles will continue. Species ADAPTS.

However, man will do a GREAT job of killing the planet - say if all the topsoil is killed off with over farming and pushing all this biofuel crap. Oh, the 'masters' have BIG PLANS all right:

"Bioeconomy describes the idea of an industrial order that relies on biological materials, processes and services.”

Inputs: The Biomass Economy

"The key concept is that industrial production moves from the use of fossil and mineral resources (coal, petroleum and natural gas) toward living biological raw materials, primarily ‘biomass’ plant matter such as woodchips, agricultural plants and algae."

Processes: The Biotech Economy

"As the DNA found in living cells is decoded into genetic information for use in biotechnology applications, genetic sequences are acquiring a new value as the building blocks of designed biological production systems. By hijacking the ‘genetic instructions’ of cells, plants and animals to force them to produce industrial products, industry transforms transgenic and synthetic organisms into bio-factories that can be deployed elsewhere on the globe – either in private vats or plantations. Nature is altered to meet business interests."

Services: The Bioservices Economy

"As ecosystems collapse and biodiversity declines, new markets in ecosystem “services” enable the trading of concocted ecological ‘credits.’ The declared aim is to “incentivize conservation” by creating a profit motive in order to justify interventions in large-scale natural systems such as hydrological cycles, the carbon cycle or the nitrogen cycle."

So let me get this straight, involved companies would start using UP all the live "biological raw materials ", alter DNA on a mass scale (producing NO bad things I'm SURE) and "incentivize" participation with money for supposed conservation.

Question: if all the "biological raw materials" are used up, have their DNA altered or destroyed, what is left to conserve?

Example of planned destruction is to f*ck with algae through "geoengineering":

"Geoengineering and the climate – Algae are central to regulating life on Earth, responsible for between 73% and 87% of the net global production of oxygen by fixing atmospheric carbon dioxide. Reengineering algae’s biology, or altering global algal stocks on any large scale, therefore, may directly impact the global oxygen cycle, carbon cycle, nitrogen cycle and ozone production – potentially in unpredictable and harmful ways. "

"... other institutions refer to the industrial vision of turning living biological material into goods and services:"

(aka GROUPS and terms TO BE SCARED AND WARY OF...!)
  • The Biobased Economy – OECD

  • Knowledge Based BioEconomy (KBBE) – the European Union

  • Industrial Biorefinery industry – World Economic Forum

  • White Biotechnology or Industrial Biotechnology – Biotechnology Industry Organization

  • The Green Economy and Biodiversity Services – United Nations Environmental Programme (UNEP)

  • The Carbohydrate Economy – Institute for Local Self Reliance

  • The Bioeconomic Revolution – the Biomass Research and Development Board of the U.S. government
I'm always a skeptic so I don't agree with everything in this report because they seem to write as though AGW has already been proven true (? huh, far from it?) and in their conclusions seem to be pushing for "global governance". (WHAT?! no WAY!) The report also seems to want "more" UN involvement? That organization is SO corrupt and has been a large part of the AGW lies. It should be disbanded not encouraged.

This report does make it VERY clear the USA needs to get rid of elitists, greeny-globalists, leftists, communists, marxists, socialists, collectivists aka all the squatting "government" currently mis-managing the show. Especially all the ones who push this biofuel, alternative energy, biotechnology planet-killing B.S.

Financially probably a big reason the elites/globalists fear a corruption fighter getting into the White House, too. Hmmm, know anyone who likes to fight corruption, understands environmental issues, American and world energy problems very well and loves America?

Friday, November 26, 2010

how vegetarianism is killing the earth... sorry PETA

I used to be a vegetarian for about 8 years until I wasn't feeling very well, was gaining weight and was low on iron. I just stumbled onto a website discussing a book which looks interesting called "The Vegetarian Myth"by Lierre Keith.

I haven't read it yet, but apparently Vegetarianism kills humans and is killing the planet.

Hmmm... guess it is a good thing I'm not one any more!
PETA ain't gonna like this book...

From the Protein Power blog "Ms. Keith was a practicing vegetarian (vegan) for twenty years, driven by her passion for kindness and justice for all creatures. She couldn’t bear the thought of even killing a garden slug, or, for that matter, even removing a garden slug from her garden to a place where something or someone else might kill it. Her years of compassionate avoidance of any foods of animal origin cost her her health. Her story of coming to grips with the realization that whatever she ate came as a consequence of some living being’s having to die form the matrix onto which her narrative hangs."
You can read the first 14 manuscript pages of the book on the author’s website.

How many vegetarians are there in New Zealand...? There sure is a lot of sheep and beef cattle.
Here is an interesting quote from author, (yes she is a radical leftist/feminist) and ex-vegan Lierre Keith, see what you think... I think she has some valid points:

"For two years after I returned to eating meat, I was compelled to read vegan message boards online. I don’t know why. I wasn’t looking for a fight. I never posted anything myself. Lots of small, intense subcultures have cult-like elements, and veganism is no exception. Maybe the compulsion had to do with my own confusion, spiritual, political, personal. Maybe I was revisiting the sight of an accident: this was where I had destroyed my body. Maybe I had questions and I wanted to see if I could hold my own against the answers that I had once held tight, answers that had felt righteous, but now felt empty. Maybe I don’t know why. It left me anxious, angry, and desperate each time.
But one post marked a turning point. A vegan flushed out his idea to keep animals from being killed—not by humans, but by other animals. Someone should build a fence down the middle of the Serengeti, and divide the predators from the prey. Killing is wrong and no animals should ever have to die, so the big cats and wild canines would go on one side, while the wildebeests and zebras would live on the other. He knew the carnivores would be okay because they didn’t need to be carnivores. That was a lie the meat industry told. He’d seen his dog eat grass: therefore, dogs could live on grass.
No one objected. In fact, others chimed in. My cat eats grass, too, one woman added, all enthusiasm. So does mine! someone else posted. Everyone agreed that fencing was the solution to animal death.
Note well that the site for this liberatory project was Africa. No one mentioned the North American prairie, where carnivores and ruminants alike have been extirpated for the annual grains that vegetarians embrace. But I’ll return to that in Chapter 3.
I knew enough to know that this was insane. But no one else on the message board could see anything wrong with the scheme. So, on the theory that many readers lack the knowledge to judge this plan, I’m going to walk you through this.
Carnivores cannot survive on cellulose. They may on occasion eat grass, but they use it medicinally, usually as a purgative to clear their digestive tracts of parasites. Ruminants, on the other hand, have evolved to eat grass. They have a rumen (hence, ruminant), the first in a series of multiple stomachs that acts as a fermentative vat. What’s actually happening inside a cow or a wildebeest is that bacteria eat the grass, and the animals eat the bacteria.
Lions and hyenas and humans don’t have a ruminant’s digestive system. Literally from our teeth to our rectums we are designed for meat. We have no mechanism to digest cellulose.
So on the carnivore side of the fence, starvation will take every animal. Some will last longer than others, and those some will end their days as cannibals. The scavengers will have a Fat Tuesday party, but when the bones are picked clean, they’ll starve as well. The graveyard won’t end there. Without grazers to eat the grass, the land will eventually turn to desert.
Why? Because without grazers to literally level the playing field, the perennial plants mature, and shade out the basal growth point at the plant’s base. In a brittle environment like the Serengeti, decay is mostly physical (weathering) and chemical (oxidative), not bacterial and biological as in a moist environment. In fact, the ruminants take over most of the biological functions of soil by digesting the cellulose and returning the nutrients, once again available, in the form of urine and feces.
But without ruminants, the plant matter will pile up, reducing growth, and begin killing the plants. The bare earth is now exposed to wind, sun, and rain, the minerals leech away, and the soil structure is destroyed. In our attempt to save animals, we’ve killed everything.
On the ruminant side of the fence, the wildebeests and friends will reproduce as effectively as ever. But without the check of predators, there will quickly be more grazers than grass. The animals will outstrip their food source, eat the plants down to the ground, and then starve to death, leaving behind a seriously degraded landscape.
The lesson here is obvious, though it is profound enough to inspire a religion: we need to be eaten as much as we need to eat. The grazers need their daily cellulose, but the grass also needs the animals. It needs the manure, with its nitrogen, minerals, and bacteria; it needs the mechanical check of grazing activity; and it needs the resources stored in animal bodies and freed up by degraders when animals die.
The grass and the grazers need each other as much as predators and prey. These are not one-way relationships, not arrangements of dominance and subordination. We aren’t exploiting each other by eating. We are only taking turns."

The states even has a few Bison farms...
There definitely is a lot of yummy seafood in NZ...

I'm glad I'm not a vegetarian any more... What's for dinner?